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Sean Corfield's avatar

I'm nearly 62. I've had transgender friends and colleagues for about half my life, so I find it somewhat bewildering how obsessed some people have become recently over legislating such a small minority of human beings. Reading how this has grown out of a few specific strands of feminism (and been co-opted) is interesting. Poststructural feminism was new to me, I think, so that was also an interesting aspect of this essay (unless I've previously read about in one of your books and forgotten -- my memory isn't what it used to be).

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Lesley H.'s avatar

I am a 3rd wave feminist, and I think much of this is accurate, but some of it simplistic and denies the gray areas between each wave of feminism. I was highly active in the queer rights movement and the Aids period with ACT UP and Queer Nation. At this point we still have the womyn’s festival in Michigan, and a lot of open conversations about gender ideology.

I also worked at one of the oldest women’s centers in the US- at the University of Iowa with prominent writers from each wave. All of us viewed gender as a contrived concept created by those who held power in society- kind of Foucaultian dominant knowledge paradigm- power structure critical theory. Thus, men created these concepts and stereotypes, not women.

None of us denied the existence or importance of trans people and trans rights. Not a single one. We also considered them allies. But I am no more a transwoman, by feelings, childhood and adult experiences, or current experience in this society, than a transwoman is me.

And I don’t think any of us thought differently about that. A ciswoman can’t claim to be the same as a transwoman because we know their experiences were at times excruciating and awful and their struggle so different - and much worse, and at least in my experience with radical, “cultural” and 3rd wave feminists, and in my own political philosophy today, none of us denied their legitimate existence, nor denied the importance of their collective experience which was of course different than ours. I think that must be a very tiny sections of radical feminists who wanted to negate the validity of trans people and I never came across any of them.

That said, we *did* have arguments with trans women who came in to join our support groups who upon transition took on the worst stereotypes of “femininity” and dressed like hookers. In our collective opinion, it was incredibly insulting and perpetuating of exactly what we were trying to change. I still think that was a very fair critique. I mean, what is feminine? Is femininity really defined by acting dumb, slightly hysterical, over dramatic, and like a sexual object? Do we want it to be? I didn’t. And in fact that actually evolved, thankfully, and people all started acting like just people, regardless of which gender they identified with -or neither.

I also think “terf”ism is applied to anyone who has a different opinion about why non-binary identities have surged, or brings up a discussion about why females have taken “they/them” pronouns at more than twice the rate of males. There is a fair and valid discussion to be had about any political movement- from a historical contextual viewpoint, change is a result of a context which is objectionable for one reason or another- and the personal is political.

Yet questioning any of this results in the knee jerk response of hurt feelings and accusations of terfism despite the fact that none of these discussions within the feminist sphere today are about denying anyone’s existence. And it’s perfectly fair to ask why more females reject the identity than males. That’s hardly terfism, is a valuable space to explore and discuss.

In fact, the current state of this polarization within the feminist community is really counterproductive. It’s counterproductive to accuse all people who ask what the intellectual or political philosophy, or framing and strategies are of the movement to reject binary definitions of the worst possible intentions (which really should be pretty easy to discuss- we all agree that they should be rejected!). It’s like calling someone who objects to the genocide of Palestinians anti-Semitic and aggressive instead of having a reasoned conversation about it- nothing is accomplished by that.

And, imho, it’s intellectually lazy. It’s boring to just say “my feelings are all that matter and if you ask me anything, or express any opinion about it [even if not a right wing awful thing] you are being aggressive.” Which is literally how thin the conversation is, as well as the definition you have above for Terfism as it’s black and white and not inclusive of the many radical feminist writings of that time. I’m pretty sure the % of radical feminists who were “anti-trans” as you say, objected to aspects of the trans movement, not to their very existence- but I’d need to look that up since I never ran into it myself.

And, btw, I do hold the opinion that giving Katlyn Jenner “woman of the year” was rich, given she enjoyed and exploited the full privilege of male identity for most of her life, and transitioning, while highly courageous, is not an accomplishment specific to what women have had to fight to achieve collectively throughout history. So really, she just got handed another privilege she may not have had she been a woman transitioning to a man, but also, neither would be man or woman of the year anyway because it’s not specific to cisgender male or female history - its specific to the non-binary community’s historical struggle for recognition and acceptance- again, huge accomplishment, but not representative of one gender or another. This hardly means I’m trans phobic, but here you have implied just that in your explanation above.

All this said, I really like your writing and have subscribed because despite being called a terf and aggressive for bringing up conversations around feminist contexts of gender, I’ve always been very trans supportive and have marched and been active in the demand for inclusion and acceptance of the trans and non binary community. I am really interested in learning about the current state and thoughts around the politics of it- and can’t seem to get that out of any young non binary or trans person today- it feels like there is no acceptable way to talk about it.

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